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Tubelord:  I found these guys using I see why they are close to Faraquet, Meet Me In St. Louis, and Blakfish.  I can appreciate these guys intellectually more than viscerally.  I mean I like songs like Propeller and (gotta look it up!).  Still, they are probably the first band I've come across that fits squarely in that genre in my head that I don't absolutely love.  I know that my definition is evolving in some ways or fine-tuning.  Anyways, there is that "patterns over patterns" thing.  But not as frenetic, and a coming from an Indie angle.